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PostSubject: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:24 pm

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Nickname : Kreator
Class: Biochemist
Planned Woe build: 99 int 71 dex 70 vit
Planned Woe skilltree (Skill Simulator) : AD/FCP/SLIM
Current gears (screenshot if possible) :

Planned gears : Gonna add BG ( swordman ) combo for more vit, heal effectiveness with potions and reductions and acessory too. Gonna use Nox/Ferus/ED+Marc


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- Motivations to play RO (What do you like in this mmorpg ?) Siege
- Why do you wanna join us? Comptetitive guild and my friend Glorious is here.
- Do you know some guys from the guild here? Glorious
- What is the experience you have in the class you want to play? Played a few WoEs as creator
- Do you play other MMORPG's (+ time compared to RO)? Not.
- Old guilds (servers)? Hell @EuphRO


About woe (Yeah we are a woe oriented guild).

- Availability for Woe? 6 WoEs out of 8 per month at least.
- Weekly time you spend on getting mats for woe? Enough time to be set.
- Types and quantities of used consumables ? 1k+ Ranked Condensed pots/mastelas, 300 blues, 50 Speeds, 100 Bersecks.
- Explain (briefly) your role in a Woe? (SE - FE) FCP before GvGs and AD + slim pitcher at gvgs.

-I might play Glorious HP for woe, when he make his paladin.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:25 pm

Quote :
Gonna add BG ( swordman ) combo for more vit
What?

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:30 pm

Well, vit food and other bonus vit points doesnt get higher damage from AD, but gives u more stun reduction...Also the swordman combo gives +10% heal effectiveness with potions, wich is great

So, I will get 85 vit total ,with only 71 base vit


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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:30 pm

Do you know the swordman combo work only on swordman?
How do you have FCp + Slim + Homonculus?
Would you make your char again when you will got VAlk armor , Stone proof hat + Flame skull

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:34 pm

The swordman combo can be used for both swordman and merchant classes.
Yes, he has slim 10, ad 10 and fcp lvl 4
Check the bg combo again =o
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:45 pm

Kenshura wrote:
Do you know the swordman combo work only on swordman?

I use the swordman combo Swt but with a z.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:47 pm

Oh i tought it didnt work. Well but thats a lot of work for a creator who will need another build in 2/3 Months.( 99/99 )

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:48 pm

I wouldn't like to be in charge to devo you.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:52 pm

Glorious wrote:
The swordman combo can be used for both swordman and merchant classes.
Yes, he has slim 10, ad 10 and fcp lvl 4
Check the bg combo again =o
He cant got that with Resu Homonculus

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:56 pm

he doesnt have homunculus, speed pot some...
also no cultivating, he uses my crea for that xP
yah I know about 99 99 25 builds... the thing is that he was not gonna afford that, so he made this build =]
my crea is also this kind of build... was gonna make another to use with satan helm...
but if u think, a creator without thara dies faster than this one...
it just loses a little attack speed and cast time...
yah I know that the other one kills more, but this one resists way more and its independent =]

edit: lol he got homunculus haha
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:59 pm

Glorious wrote:
he doesnt have homunculus, speed pot some...
also no cultivating, he uses my crea for that xP
yah I know about 99 99 25 builds... the thing is that he was not gonna afford that, so he made this build =]
my crea is also this kind of build... was gonna make another to use with satan helm...
but if u think, a creator without thara dies faster than this one...
it just loses a little attack speed and cast time...
yah I know that the other one kills more, but this one resists way more and its independent =]


Well he doesnt tank more than others creator. he just stun less. Because with 1 vit, ads doesnt do any shit on you
But if he is ready to change his build after, why not.
You know that woe wont be like on Euphro too? We need to gather all and work with each other. Nobody go outside the group or he is dead.

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:59 pm

The thing is that a Creator should be always under devo, and the 99/99 build works more efficiently than his build in that case, and he doesn't necesseraly resists more, Ad boom.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:21 am

yo, I know about all stuff u guys talking =]
thing is that they dont believe me when I say this build is better and also, without valk armor this build is the most efficient one.
And yes, a Hell player knows whats working on a team.
I will tell him to reset, how much does it cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:22 am

OLDSCHOOL, no for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:27 am

Glorious wrote:
I will tell him to reset, how much does it cost?
If it is like in v2, it is 15m + go back to high novice 1/1.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:44 am

i can reset and make 99/99 , but i will need help with valk armor ^^

And in 1week or lower i can get lvl 9x ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:48 am

Faster to make another creator imo.and with those 15 M you buy repetable quest items and yihaa.
For now your build is ok , but in some months it will be useless.
i leave some hours people talking and i'll say after what is the final decision.

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:55 am

Ok , i will wait for now

thx for you attention xD
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:56 am

yo, he can use my creator for now, wich is lvl 96 and has slim pitcher... its better than u guys think, sigh.
with the bg combo this build is not bad...
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:07 am

I suck as hell in BG. No.
Damn fucking creator I just lost a BG round right now because you are useless and w/o pots. Same as Kenshura though.
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:25 am

I don't think he neccesarily needs to reset at this moment because, as I said before in another application, not everybody can get high end gears such as Dark basillium, Valk armor, etc so easily. But once he gets Valk armor, yes he should reset.

@Kreator and Glorious:
I will not argue against the traditional idea that vit = survivability since this idea is still true today for the most part, EXCEPT in one situation and it's called Acid Demonstration.

A creator with 71 vit will take around 6k damage from AD and definitely die in 2 shots, while a creator with 1 vit will only take around 600 total damage and it will require 12~ AD's to kill him. In this case, a 1 vit creator actually has better survivability than a 71 vit creator does. Of course, there is another form of major damage besides AD and it's called Focus Arrow Strike. With 1 vit build you can't wear Thara unless you own a Dark basillium so you will take more damage from this skill, but that's fine because you will have Defending aura buff from a paladin. In a short sentence, a creator may reduce the AD damage received by 5.4k at the cost of 100 extra FAS damage (after Defending aura). You can call this a trade if you like.

Stormgust is also a quite nasty skill and the increased damage to it due to lack of Thara is yet an additional cost for "AD immunity". I would say it's still a good trade though because 6000 AD damage and 600 AD damage is a big diffence.

So these are the big three damage sources. As a creator you don't have to worry much about damages from other skills.

You are also concerned about the amount of Devotion you will receive, I can see that. I will be honest here and admit that KR does not have many paladins at this moment, but I believe that it will later. And since creators are among the top in the priority list for Devotion, you most likely will have Devo in WoE. Do not worry.

In summary, I am okay with Kreator keeping his stat build for now but he should change to a 99 int 99 dex build once he obtains a Valkyrie armor.

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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:34 am

thats why I made my crea with vit, I can use it pretty well in the begin...
it gets 110 dex and 182 aspd at this point, with 44% demi-human reduction, 10% neutral, 10% long range reductions...
with lutie, it gets around 16k hp atm, and with 16k hp, my crea should drop for 4~5 ads with 6x vit, not 2.

edit: as far as I know, a lk with 99 vit takes 6000 damage in woe, not a 6x vit char o.o


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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:39 am

What happened to Hell, not playing?
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:43 am

almost everyone playing, but the leaders cant play
iori is dating + work... he has no time to play
rapha even worse...
they are barely loging on forums, so I gave up carrying the guild alone in my back =[
but we were doing very very well before they go inactive
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PostSubject: Re: Kreator - Creator   Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:47 am

sonic blow, cya 1 vit creators
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