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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:11 pm

bad choice of gears (divine clothes is not worth it) and low dmg build D:

experienced and active tho, in when he's woe ready
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:14 pm

Normalement, je devais pas rejouer, mais je me suis dit : Vu que RO va devenir pourri a cause des classes 3, autant terminer en beauté

P.S : Ca reste mon opinion sur les classes 3 xd

@jamie : Sup jamie, i've the same gears in v2, and haven't problem with that, and for armor, think silk robe so weak, i think divine clothes to replace it.
If you have better armor except dia robe, suggest.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:31 pm

Commence a me casser les couilles les phrases comme :
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As long as i do my job, where is the problem ?

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ve the same gears in v2, and haven't problem with that,

La v2 c fini, les builds ont evolué, etc. Tu veux je sorte les build d'il y a 3 ans? je jouais bien avec. d'ailleurs osef des valk shield, jai tjrs bien joué avec un cranial guard.
Si t'es aussi borné que ca , ca va etre dur de te lead.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:39 pm

Medic's Robe
MHP + 150. MDEF + 2.
Reduces damage from Demihuman monster by 2%.
DEF 3

Really easy to get; 80 badges.

I suggest you to get the set also (Combat Boots & Commander's Manteau):
INT + 3. Maximum HP + 12%

You'll get more hp/sp and the same def as your initial gears. The only inconvenience is those gears can't be trade.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:48 pm

Well, Tidal/Wool set gives also 10% more HP and in additional 5% reduce to water element.
Divine Cloth adds 5% immunity to stun/sc/silence and curse and gives 6 def.

Thats just the point of view...


Still -1 for me, he doesnt accept any critism and we have enough champs (he isnt geared yet).
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:59 pm

Jewlz wrote:
Well, Tidal/Wool set gives also 10% more HP and in additional 5% reduce to water element.
Divine Cloth adds 5% immunity to stun/sc/silence and curse and gives 6 def.

Thats just the point of view...
lol .. sorry
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:02 am

Panda, you should atleast take advices...When I used to main champ, 60-70 vit was more than enough and there was no SE...I never had problems with that build and 120 str always killed everyone, guess what? I don't use that build now, first thing I did before deciding to main champ again *before I quit RO for 1 year cause of exam* was asking expierienced people for builds, taking advices and tips into consideration and then after playing few WoE's SE I could see that their tips all were usefull, now again after dropping HW and maining champ, first thing I did, was discussing builds with Banni....Maybe you're good, but you can't accept criticism.

Definetly -1 for me now.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:18 am

Je préfère un mec borné qui ne sois pas facile à lead, qu'un plot qui suis les instructions à la lettre, ne prend aucune initiative et joue mal... Enfin ce n'est que mon avis.

Il joue bien, connait son rôle et apportera du punch offensif sur les barricade et en GvG selon moi.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:54 am

avec 84 vit il va surtout passé sa vie a l'inn. Aie aie stun.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:22 am

Mustang wrote:
Panda_chinese wrote:
Juwde wrote:
Panda_chinese wrote:
*private joke*
Feel da chinese power, let's go asura ESL Panda y0

*private joke v2*

On sort les dossiers ? Evite de me titiller parce que j'ai la crève.
Et quand j'ai la crève, je suis vraiment de mauvaise humeur. Je te préviens juste :)

we already got 2many asian on the guild srry
asian rox

azn pr1de n1gg4
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:36 am

can a fucking admin fix the wish size avatar? looks bad x_x

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:55 pm

84 Vit tu vas stun beaucoup trop. J'ai 83 pour le moment et la derniere woe le stun m'a vraiment fait chier. 90 c'est bien imo.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:02 pm

Banni wrote:
84 Vit tu vas stun beaucoup trop. J'ai 83 pour le moment et la derniere woe le stun m'a vraiment fait chier. 90 c'est bien imo.
Non sur ero v2 il avait aucun probleme^^

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:39 pm

Bon, je pense qu'on tourne autour du pot, ce que je peux te proposer, c'est que je ferai ma 1rst war avec mon champ actuel vers mars, et si ca stun trop, je referai un autre perso, il me faut pas plus de deux semains grand max pour monter un perso HL.

Comme on dit, vaut mieux passer à la pratique que les longs discours.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:49 pm

Pourquoi pas. Ca coutera rien de le laisser à l'essai pour une woe, d'autant plus que certains disent qu'il est un bon champ.
Wish, réduit la taille de ton avatar please.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:21 pm

non. on a 11 champ, pas besoin dun truc qu'on est sur que ca puera parce que nos champ ont deja testé.

We got 11 Champs, maybe more i dont remember. I said to Jewlz to reroll on Paladin instead of his Champion, i said to Graver to play his hwiz when he rly want to play champ. What would it be if i accept a class we dotn need in our roster, only because he got friends in the guild but who is a fucking stubborn who think its US who would want him, and not him who would want us?What would they think about me? That i'm a liar? That i'm playing with their balls?
And what's next, a gipsy who will apply with AV build cause it was perfect on V2? It would cost what for 6 vit? 7/8 dext? Onoz, your cast will be so slow :'(

Now either you go for what we ask, and what is our norm which is the same for everyone who want to be in this guild, either you can find another guild, cause either you will have to find another guild.







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AFA- - Champion
Banni - Champion
BariK - Champion
Sayero - Champion
Rqziel - Champion
Fon' - Champion
Yuto Shazaar-Champion
Jamie-Champion
Jewlz-Champion
Graver-Champion
CharCoal-Champion

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:27 pm

Ken, I think you missed Charcoal Inpachi-Champion or I'm wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:29 pm

Yep sry.
If you put 90 vit, you got -6 dext +4 int, - 0.09 sec. Amazing, what a sacrifice

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:19 am

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AFA- - Champion
Banni - Champion
BariK - Champion
Sayero - Champion
Rqziel - Champion
Fon' - Champion
Yuto Shazaar-Champion
Jamie-Champion
Jewlz-Champion
Graver-Champion
CharCoal-Champion

Sauf qu'en woe ca fait jamais que 4 champs la pluspart du temps...
Fin personelement je sais que Panda est un très bon champ. Stu veux Panda pour pas perdre du temps je peux te prêter mon champ (83 vit pour l'instant) et tu testera samedi ce que ca donne (Je ne peux presque jamais woe samedi.). Tu seras vite fixé.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:38 am

P-e parce que jevite d'en avoir 4518 ? ca a beau etre le_champ_de_ouf, un Champ qui OS pas un pala ( donc un prof devo) et qui stun longtemps et bcp dans le no man's land, je vois pas trop a quoi il va servir. P-e as tu une idée.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:40 am

Son build OS tout. C'est pas ça le problème. C'est sa vit.

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:59 am

1 int, il OS pas un pala dans apple.
( et oui le probleme cest sa vit, mais si sa perte de vit est meme pas compensé par un meilleur azu, ALORs, ALORS , ALOOOOOOOORSSSSSS
Il
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Useless)

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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:42 am

Damage

His planned gears on 52/25: 19808

Add HE gears like drobe and variant: 23948

swap giant whisper: 25184

up bg mace to +7:

Minimum Damage 25245
Average Damage 25709
Maximum Damage 26172

to +9 like he wants x_X :

Minimum Damage 25245
Average Damage 26204
Maximum Damage 27162

I dont see anything wrong with the dmg.

Though you can drop 10 str (73 base), add 20 more int (22 base), deal slightly more dmg and save 41 stat points that you can add to vit, but whatever. Sure you won't be able to swap GW anymore, but you can swap morph and its like 1 bpot more, to get like 700 more dmg than GW. And the hp from wool/tidal or bg set combo is useless since you'll be using variant anyway.

And why would you want to asura a pally x_X. It's not like in fe anymore. Devo pallies stack in the middle of their mob, and afaik they wear hp gears over reduc. Why not just asura the frontline crea?

Oh, and vit is something you have to try for yourself. You don't just follow everyone like lemmings just cause they say 90 vit is needed. Did woe with 85 vit, sucked balls. 0.5s stun every 1-2s on attack. Even with 90 vit, it's a ministun a few sec. You can't asura cades like that, you get stopped in the middle of your run. You can be hardcore and aim for 91 vit with bg food, then use hydro food and swap mandragora cap for 97 vit when needed.

Btw, +1 for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:19 am

Without Sp song 80% of the scholars will laugh about his asura, 80% of the assax will survive,too.
(when a sniper wears cran/ck he cant do a shit)




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And why would you want to asura a pally x_X. It's not like in fe anymore. Devo pallies stack in the middle of their mob, and afaik they wear hp gears over reduc. Why not just asura the frontline crea?
Champ is the only char who can OS every other cls.
And i want to keep this advantage...
Creos have most of the time devo, hf with 19k asura dmg.
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PostSubject: Re: Panda_Chinese (Champion)   Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:39 pm

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His planned gears on 52/25: 19808
Doesnt even OS a prof with apple.

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Add HE gears like drobe and variant: 23948
this look more ok.

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swap giant whisper: 25184
Who switch to Giant whisper? I wont talk about bg mace upgraded. 900 Medals for little changes


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I dont see anything wrong with the dmg.
If he had 90 vit yeah, maybe. But someone who stun like a bitch will got 20 % chance to got his azura owned because of stun.



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And why would you want to asura a pally x_X.
Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Laughing out loud! Every class he need to azura ( Crea/prof) except WS got devotion on him. So if you dont OS a paladin...
That would be for me the only reason why he doesnt improve his vit.


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Why not just asura the frontline crea?
Speed pot azura on creator got 90 % chance to fail. Dispel -> Fail, Devo -> Fail AD spam on you -> Fail etc. Thats not why i'm waiting from a champ. i'm waiting from a champ that he azura every shit in our land, or trying to come in our land. You are our LP's protector.
If you got his vit , you got 100 % chance to fail.


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Oh, and vit is something you have to try for yourself.
defintly not.

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